Comments on: End smacking but Bring Back the Cane?

By: lorraine

lorraine — Mon, 12 Dec 2011 23:58:33 +0000

I am on this site to research what would happen if they bought cane back into schools, I am sorry to hear of the abuse you are suffering john lam I think for an 11 year old the way you write is more than fantastic and you do not have to put up with these beatings you need to tell someone what is going on it is illegal now and I know violence shouldn’t attract violence but I hope you do get your revenge, it is not humane to beat a child which you are to the point that you cannot stand up. Your mother should know if you have tried your best that should be good enough. I hope you get this message TAKE CARE please tell someone what they are doing to you x

By: John Lam

John Lam — Wed, 07 Jul 2010 13:44:35 +0000

Hi,I’m a 11 year old student in malaysia…..
my teacher keep caning me in class cause my spelling got an B
my teacher caned me 10 times for 1 spelling mistake….
it was so hard that i cant even hold my pencil….
i know i should read my spelling…but……nobody can memorize 20 words in 3 minutes right??for my age of course..

At home..my mother caned me 50 times cause i got an B..
i was punished by preventing me for eating in 2 days,for the last 2 days i cant even walk straight….
i think that parents should stop caning as it made me more madder and wanting revenge on what they(teacher,parents,principals)did to me..

and sry for the mistakes and i know all of u would think it is very annoying but i fell leass stress if i say all my feelings to public

THANKS for watching all the way!

By: debs

debs — Thu, 07 Jan 2010 18:55:18 +0000

In my experience both as a parent & a pupil of a school with corporal punishment.
It is important that parents raise their children well. Providing you maintain good routines & an interest in your children any physical punishment is usually not needed & only a last resort. However as a mum i’ve had to visit many places where other parents are there with their kids. They are often more interested in talking to each other than their kids. They rarely have anything for the kids to do while they’re waiting anywhere & get annoyed with the kids if they moan or act up.
Equally teachers often don’t have time or inclination to hear all sides of a story, who started it/said what etc so why should children get physically punished/abused for the teachers possible neglect or lack of insight or resources?
When i was at school i don’t feel corporal punishment was a deterrent as such.Particularly for the hard core few who quite frankly should have been expelled.
I have realised this more particularly recently on review of the secondary schools.I have had a fantastic opportunity to visit not only state schools but some private schools too. The bottom line is that the private schools don’t have to put up with the oiks that are in the state schools. that’s why they are so popular. So we need to take the oiks out of state schools & deal with them separately.

By: Jorie

Jorie — Mon, 04 Jan 2010 18:27:55 +0000

I am from America and had issues with my son’s school. I believe in a strong hand and loving heart when raising kids. I do not want the school to discipline my child as I feel I know what is right and effective for him. But my main concern is that many many parents don’t discipline their kids. When his teacher asked who the kids would want to be contacted when they misbehaved, the principal (head master) or their parents, my son was the only one who wanted the principal…LOL.

To me that meant I was doing my job right. School is for education and the job of discipline was for the home. I should say that I never beat my son… I had a firm rule of no spanking when I was angry (was very difficult rule to follow), and it was only 3 swats on a bare bottom. The last time I swatted him he was 5 or 6 and I gave him the swats and he looked at me in all seriousness and confusion and said “Mom that didn’t hurt”. I explained that I was not trying to hurt him but get his attention… aka if you are not going to listen you are going to feel. He is now a 20 year old young man and I am very proud of him. He is respectful, honest and someone I am proud to call my son and friend.

Maybe we should start to look at making parents more responsible for the discipline and behavior of their children. Many a time when in a store and I see a child out of control, and a parent ignoring them I want to go and smack the parent. I am not saying that good parents can’t have difficult children…. but a parent who does not give firm discipline to a young child, makes the child’s life even harder, by making it so the child has to learn life’s hard lessons from society.

By: John

John — Sun, 03 Jan 2010 17:12:05 +0000

Caning (by a head teacher) is unlikely to be abused in the way that physical response by a teacher might be in the heat of the moment.
It was, and would be, a major deterrent to disruptive pupils.
At the moment, a few student bullies dictate life in most schools. They intimidate and physically abuse other pupils, abuse and intimidate teachers, and undermine the education of thousands.
Effective education will not be achieved unless disruptive behaviour is firmly controlled. So far, all the politically correct educationalists and politicians have failed to find an effective substitute for caning. It seems unlikely that they are about to now, after 20 years of trying. Isn’t it about time that we admit that we got it wrong?

By: Anon

Anon — Sat, 12 Sep 2009 09:13:31 +0000

Doing nothing about these badly behaved students is making things worse. I don’t feel the cane is the answer but what the government is currently causing negative education to those students who want to learn and achieve.

I know that schools must show that they are removing and excluding less children from their classrooms. Has anyone in government realised what this means? It means that students who are abusive, disruptive, and making a huge negative impact on the learning of the rest of the class are being sent back to class for the sake of a statistic. So the other children who wish to learn can’t – their teacher is busy. They don’t learn, they don’t grow, and they are less able to contribute to society in their adult lives.

I know of students swearing at their teachers at the top of their voice, refusing to do what they are told, damaging property/classrooms, bullying other students, and causing mayhem only to be allowed to stay in the classroom. Why? The collection of this statistic is abusive to well behaved students. The keeping of these students in the class is prohibiting others from their own human right to learn and grow – I just wish all the other parents of the well behaved children would write and express their desire for their children to learn in a safe and nurturing learning environment… and write to the press at large to express how statistics are more important than educating our youth.

Politics – making statistics make them look good by creating fake statistics.

It is such a disappointment. Complete lack of concern for the well being of all students.

These poorly behaved students learn better when they are in a unit designed to offer them the best learning environment that works for them (and keeps the classrooms safe for the well behaved students). If they are too abusive they should be sent out to a school that is designed to offer the best learning environment for them.

Call or write you MP or the DCSF and complain – be heard – let the government know that what they are doing is wrong and that you don’t approve.

By: agent 1

agent 1 — Sat, 29 Aug 2009 03:25:24 +0000

I believe that in order to control children who are disruptive they should be smacked but not caned, at primary school I remember one supply teacher would smack children for misbehaving.

People should not be allowed to do what else the supply teacher did, they would smack a child when they felt like it. I remember I answered a question wrong and had to stand behind the door,I didnt want to and so was smacked and then made to go behind the door.

It happened in yr 3 (1998)

If smacking was introduced again then it would control the children who misbehave and should only be carried out on those in years 3 to 6 in primary school and any year in secondary school.

The cane should not be reintroduced.

By: lydia

lydia — Mon, 01 Jun 2009 16:29:04 +0000

my personal opinion is that children shoudl not get smacked/cane as there are other ways to resolve conflict between pupils and teachers other than these punishments. i suppose in a way ti si different if yopur own parents choose to smack you but your teachers smacking you sia completely different thing.

By: John Peacehaven

John Peacehaven — Fri, 08 May 2009 07:47:06 +0000

Corporal punishment was banned in state schools in the UK in 1987 and in independent schools in 1998.

By: Jenny

Jenny — Wed, 06 May 2009 22:34:50 +0000

I think that parents should be responsible for their children, not the state.
It does state in Proverbs, ‘provoke not your child to anger.’ That essentially means to over discipline. I don’t think the cane is needed, however a smack should be up to the parents.It is not for the state to intefere and think they are the parent.